Gene Kim: Wiring a Winning Software Organization - Episode 308

Gene Kim has been studying high-performing technology organizations since 1999. He was the founder and CTO of Tripwire, Inc. for 13 years, running an enterprise security software company. As an author, Gene's books have sold over 1 million copies, including earning recognition as a Wall Street Journal bestselling author. He most recently co-authored Wiring the Winning Organization, as well as The Phoenix Project, The DevOps Handbook, and the Shingo Publication Award-winning book, Accelerate. Since 2014, he has been the organizer and program chair of the DevOps Enterprise Summit, now called the Enterprise Technology Leadership Summit, which studies the technology transformations of large, complex organizations.

Topics of Discussion:

[2:11] Gene joins the show and shares more about his career background.

[9:51] Gene discusses the three key mechanisms that are common across various frameworks and methodologies: certification, simplification, and amplification.

[10:06] What has changed since Gene released his first book in 2004?

[14:42] The two revelations in the book.

[18:25] The importance of layer 3 (organizational wiring) in complex systems.

[21:16] Reducing communication barriers in software development teams.

[24:33] Overcoming obstacles as a team.

[25:56] IT department's role in business, including challenges with communication and coordination.

[27:06] The Check Box project.

[30:11] Is the concept of the IT department a good or bad idea?

[32:11] What caused the DevOps moment?

[38:40] Wiring software organizations for success.

[43:08] How Gene learned what good architecture looks like.

[44:41] Gene is blown away by how important the notion of independence of action is.

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Architect Forum

Software Engineer Forum

Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

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Gene Kim

Gene Kim on X

Gene Kim LinkedIn

The Unicorn Project, by Gene Kim

The Phoenix Project: A Novel about IT, DevOps, and Helping Your Business Win, by Gene Kim, Kevin Behr, et al.

"What to Expect at Enterprise Technology Leadership Summit at Vegas 2024"

"Decoding the DNA of the Toyota Production System"

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Craig Loewen: Windows Subsystem for Linux - Episode 307

Craig Loewen has had a love for technology ever since he was a child and has grown passionate about building things that empower people. From constructing his own quadcopter for photography to delivering developer tools that aid developers in driving technological innovation, he has done it all.

As a product manager at Microsoft, he is responsible for the Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL), a developer tool used by over 3 million developers and IT professionals. He defines the product vision and prioritizes the feature roadmap based on customer data, technical feedback, and market studies. On the personal side, he volunteers as a mentor at First Robotics, teaching high school students how to build robots and fostering a passion for STEM.

Topics of Discussion:

[3:52] Craig's career journey, starting as an intern working on Windows console and WSL features.

[5:18] Common use cases for WSL — allowing developers to use Linux tools while staying on Windows.

[7:43] How to get started with WSL.

[8:59] Does Craig have any favorite Linux programs?

[10:05] New Dev Home feature for managing WSL distros with a graphical interface.

[11:36] How WSL works using virtualization technology.

[13:35] Memory management in WSL — typical usage and automatic optimization.

[15:22 WSL is designed primarily for development scenarios, not production environments.

[20:33] Integration of local AI and small language models with WSL using VS Code AI Toolkit.

[23:37] Using small language models for various tasks, including issue labeling and search functionality.

[27:35] Intro to Sudo for Windows, bringing Linux-like elevated permissions to Windows commands.

[28:39] What exactly is Sudo?

[32:39] New enterprise features for WSL, including security controls and integration with Microsoft Defender.

Mentioned in this Episode:

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Architect Forum

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Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

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Craig Loewen

What is the Windows Subsystem for Linux

Windows Subsystem for Linux, Your Enterprise Ready Multitool

Zero to Hero — Develop your first app with Local LLMs on Windows

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Damian Brady: GitHub Copilot - Episode 306

Damian Brady is a Staff Developer Advocate at GitHub. He's a developer, speaker, and author specializing in DevOps, MLOps, developer process, and software architecture. Formerly a Cloud Advocate at Microsoft for four years, and before that, a dev at Octopus Deploy and a Microsoft MVP, he has a 25-year background in software development and consulting in a broad range of industries. In Australia, he co-organized the Brisbane .Net User Group and launched the annual DDD Brisbane conference.

Topics of Discussion:

[3:45] When Damian realized he was interested in the things surrounding software development.

[6:40] GitHub Copilot and AI tools to improve developer workflows.

[8:50] What can people love GitHub Copilot for today?

[16:06] How GitHub Copilot can assist developers without replacing them.

[21:11] AI-powered code generation and bug detection.

[25:15] Improving AI's ability to complete tasks by providing context and grounding it in truth.

[29:23] How the process of adding a new field works.

[34:03] Using Copilot to improve code development workflows.

[42:03] The "ship to learn" idea.

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Clear Measure Way

Architect Forum

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Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

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Ep 258 with Damian Brady

Github Copilot Workspace

Damian on Twitter

Damian Brady

GitHub Next

CoPilot for Docs

GitHub Next

CoPilot for CLI

Copilot Voice

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Developer Experience in Windows 11 with Kayla Cinnamon - Episode 305

Kayla Cinnamon is a Senior Product Manager at Microsoft working on the developer experience in Windows. This includes Dev Home and PowerToys. Kayla formerly worked on Windows Terminal and Cascadia Code, which is the font you all use inside Visual Studio. She holds a Master's degree in Information Technology from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute with a concentration in Human-Computer Interaction. She recently was a speaker at the recent Microsoft Build conference.

Topics of Discussion:

[6:02] Kayla talks about DevHome.

[7:18] Examples of having agency over your machine.

[9:05] Setting up an environment in DevHome and a WinGet configuration file.

[10:10] Desired state configuration.

[10:47] How do we generate these files?

[12:26] Using Dev Home to simplify cloning and configuring repositories.

[14:22] DSC can toggle Windows settings as well.

[16:26] What is Dev Drive?

[20:36] How run environments help bring your Cloud and remote environments into a centralized place.

[23:09] The most popular power toys.

[26:07] Windows subsystem for Linux.

[31:00] What's the next power toy?

[35:18] Ways for people to learn more.

Mentioned in this Episode:

Clear Measure Way

Architect Forum

Software Engineer Forum

Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

Ep 54 with Kayla Cinnamon and Rich Turner

Kayla Cinnamon

GitHub Kayla Cinnamon

Kayla on X

Kayla on LinkedIn

Developer Experience improvements in Windows

Windows Terminal

Github Microsoft Cascadia

Microsoft PowerToys

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Mitch Denny: .NET Aspire Architecture - Episode 304

Mitch is a Principal Software Engineer on the .NET Cloud team working on .NET Aspire and ASP.NET Core. Previously Mitch has worked on Azure services, the Azure SDK, and Azure DevOps.

Topics of Discussion:

[2:46] Mitch's career journey in the Microsoft ecosystem.

[5:46] What makes it .NET Aspire vs. .NET8?

[6:16] .NET Aspire focuses on seamless integration between app components.

[8:18] Making sure the core of Aspire is cloud-agnostic.

[10:48] Developer control plane.

[11:40] How Aspire simplifies cross processes.

[14:36] Using Aspire to manage dependencies in microservices applications.

[18:18] Automating deployments with Azure DevOps and easy mode for .NET Aspire.

[30:27] Securing container deployments.

[34:39] Using Azure DevOps for cloud deployment and configuration management.

[37:33] What are the best resources for people to dig in?

[40:03] Azure subscriptions inside Microsoft.

[43:43] They are only just getting started with Aspire, and with .NET 9 coming out in November.

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Clear Measure Way

Architect Forum

Software Engineer Forum

Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at programming@palermo.net.

Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer's Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

Jeffrey Palermo's Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

GitHub Mitch Denny

.NET Aspire (aspire)

github.com/dotnet/aspire/tree/main/playground

github.com/dotnet/aspire

github.com/dotnet/eShop

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